At Computex 2024, AMD launched Zen 5. With that, it also gave a preview of its next-gen server CPU. The 5th Gen AMD EPYC “Turin” we expect to be a Q4 2024 part, but it should be a huge upgrade over the 4th Gen.
Please excuse typos, as we are covering this live.
AMD Computex 2024 Zen 5 Turin Preview up to 192 Cores
AMD had a really cool disclosure during the keynote. AMD has announced a number of cloud provider wins, but we have not seen a ton of things like Bergamo deployments. AMD says it is winning in the internal workloads at hyper-scalers. It is a bit strange then that we do not see more public instances, but perhaps that is the way things go.
AMD made it a point to show that it now has 33% server CPU market share.
AMD is showing that it has more cores than Intel even with the AMD EPYC 9004 Genoa parts.
The Zen 5 AMD EPYC “Turin” is going to use the same SP5 socket as Genoa/ Genoa-X/ Bergamo. Keep in mind that Intel will be changing sockets with its next generations. See Intel Shows Granite Rapids and Sierra Forest Motherboards at OCP Summit 2023.
AMD is showing twelve compute chiplets and an IO die again. It also says up to 192 cores and 384 threads.
Using 128 cores, AMD says that “Turin” is 3.1x the speed of 64 core Emerald Rapids. Cool, but Intel will have introduced two new platforms by the time we see Turin. Expect next-gen to next-gen to be much closer here.
AMD says that it has AI performance lead over the current generation 5th Gen Intel Xeon “Emerald Rapids”.
The endnotes say this is Llama2-7B-CHAT-HF with weights quantized to INT4.
Final Words
Server processors are cool. It looks like we are getting much larger EPYC CPUs in 2H 2024. The last roadmap we saw was Q4, likely after NVIDIA Oberon hits the market. Still, the big one folks want to hear about is the AMD Instinct GPUs for AI. That is going to be next.
AMD claims it has “33% of the server CPU market”. Is that 33% of the ENTIRE market or is that simply 33% of AMD’s total CPU/GPU sales to date being server parts? Clarification is requested. Thanks.
Stephen Beets: AMD’s total market share is more like 15% to 20% overall. 33% might be datacenter CPU sales in terms of shipments this fiscal quarter.
top is going to give up and just run out in a busy freeway.
Ref. the market share, most likely they are going by revenue. Which, frankly, is the only correct metric. These days.
Selling an Epyt 400 series 4C chip for $150 is not even remotely comparable with selling a 128C Bergamo for $5000.
So while they ship 20% by units, with bigger units/more cores on average compared to intel, a higher revenue share is expected.
Whats with the ever ever neverending Intel fanboizs at servethehome ????????????
What exactly does endnote CTT-002 say? Was AMX utilized on the Emerald Rapids system?
As for Intel announcing 2 platforms before Turin is out – sure, but one has a very different target (Sierra), and Intel’s keynote showed Granite Rapids only 2.3x compared to Emerald in HPC (molecular simulation) while AMD shows 3.1x – still sound leadership in HPC.
Thanks.
> Using 128 cores, AMD says that “Turin” is 3.1x the speed of 64 core Emerald Rapids. Cool, but Intel will have introduced two new platforms by the time we see Turin. Expect next-gen to next-gen to be much closer here.
Have I missed the part saying this article is sponsored by Intel? I’m sure it’s not intentional, but it seems that lately you make suggestive statements implying that Intel is better, without proper backup. In the recent review of the Intel Sierra you said something along the likes of it being a better offering because it offers more moderate performance.
The question is how the 192c/384t Turin will compare to Intel’s 288c/288t Sierra Forest.
Thank you, @Jeremy Irons. That does seem more accurate. :-)